C H A R L E S L E D I A R D
and his Liquor Products
12 November 2012 (R•020116) (R•061318) (R•070718) (R•082819)
With my post the other day on OK PLANTATION Bitters (see: OK Plantation Bitters – the “Big Boys”), I thought I would circle back and look for information regarding Charles Lediard from New York who ‘supposedly’ represented the OK brand. To me it is quite interesting that Mr. Lediard would use so many shapes and colors for his bottles.
I thought I would find abundant information searching online but most of what I find is a series of pieces of information plus some directory listings from St. Louis listing Franklin Hastings as his St. Louis partner. I guess we need to put the puzzle together. I am specifically looking for confirmation of the brands represented by Lediard, advertising and lable examples, who his partners or representatives were on the west coast and why some some of these bottles are found so far west of the Mississippi. It would also be nice to find out where these bottles were made? Was it Lockport, Whitney or some other glass works? I find all of this interesting because I do possess the triangular OK Plantations Bitters, the square Lediard’s OK Plantation Bitters, the Lediard’s Celebrated Stomach Bitters and the Lediard’s Morning Call Bitters bottles in my collection. These bottles all come in great, drop-dead colors.
Here is a partial listing of Lediard products:
C. LEDIARD / ST. LOUIS Smith 1960:213, 1972:169; Wilson 1981:25
C. LEDIARD / ST LOUIS Wilson 1981:25
LEDIARD’S // CELEBRATED / /STOMACH BITTERS Watson 1965:154; Ring 1980:300
LEDIARD’S // MORNING CALL // STOMACH BITTERS Ring 1980:301
C. LEDIARD NEW YORK Ring 1980:301
LEDIARD’S // OK PLANTATION // BITTERS – 1840 Ring 1980:301
LEDIARD’S // OLD DOMINION // MINT JULEP (PRG added to list)
ROYAL WINDSOR BITTERS
Various Notes:
Charles Lediard was a liquor dealer in New York advertising as such In the New York Daily times in 1859-1860. (Digger Odell)
There was a LEDIARD’S // MORNING CALL // STOMACH BITTERS advertised in Mobile in 1860. (antique-bottles.net)
A labeled “Lediard’s Morning Call Bitters”, embossed C. LEDIARD NEW YORK was found in Panama. (antique-bottles.net)
Frank Hastings and Charles Lediard were listed in the 1866 St. Louis Business Directory selling Bitters. This bottle is listed as M130 in the Bitters book and looks to be the bottle I have. It is embossed MORNING CALL // BITTERS. Mine was dug in St. Louis. However, the book indicates a size of 9 1/2″ x 2 13/16″ while mine is 9 3/8″ x 2 3/4″. A six sided, double ring, applied top bottle embossed C. LEDIARD // ST. LOUIS sold at auction in 2008. (antique-bottles.net)
A fragmentary hexagonal bottle of clear greenish brown glass for bitters that bears parts of the legend, “C. LEDIARD // ST. LOUIS”. http://fishhook.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu:4445/2484/
To my knowledge the only example of the Lediard’s Stomach Bitters discovered in Sierra County I watched being broken. A Goodyears Bar digger and I were putting a test hole in the back of a cabin site when he put his shovel through a beautiful teal blue, iron pontiled example of this bottle. The cabin site, above Indian Valley and on the trail to Indian Hill, is one of several cabin sites that were discovered while walking the area. Recent extensive logging operations in the area of the trail and townsite of Indian Hill have pretty much destroyed any traces of the trail and cabin sites that were located alongside of it. Although this is not a western manufactured bottle, collectors believe it was distributed and marketed exclusively on the Pacific Coast. Western, bitters and gold rush collectors rate this bottle as rare and consider it a very desirable addition to their collection. Rick Simi – Western Bitters News
New Addition: Hello Ferdinand, enjoyed the post on the Lediard bottles. I have always been amazed at the variety of bottles produced for his products. I was lucky enough to find one of the Celebrated Stomach Bitters many years ago, it has been one of my favorite bottles. Then about six years ago I got lucky again and found a beautiful Mint Julep (pictured below), yet another Lediard product. Smooth based it looks to be the same color as the Morning Call Bitters. I also remember seeing a pair of the six sided bottles from St. Louis except they were embossed New York. One was green and the other I would say similar in color to the St. Louis one in your post. Got to wonder if there are other Lediard bottles out there. Steve Mello
Select Listings:
1811: Charles Lediard born in England. Both parents from England. 21 December 1817 baptised in England. Father John, Mother Elizabeth
1857: Charles Lediard, segars, 483 Broadway, h. 417 Broome – New York City Directory
1858: Charles Lediard Petition to become citizen of United States (see below)
1859: Charles Lediard, 37 S. William – New York City Directory
1859: Lediard’s Morning Call advertisement (see above) – The Times Picayune, Thursday, May 19, 1859
1865-1867: Charles Lediard, liquors, 13 Dey, New York City – Trow’s New York City Directory
1866: Hastings, Lediard & Co. (1866-1871), S W Hastings & Co. (1872-1878) – St. Louis City Directory ( 29-31 Washington Ave (1866), 115-117 Washington Ave (1867-1868), 514-516 N 2nd (1869-1871), this address also appears as Hastings & Berlin, 115-117 Washington Ave (1872-1874), 514-516 N 2nd (1875-1878)
1872: Lediard & Townsend (Charles Lediard and William E. Townsend), importers of wines and liquors, 52 and 54 Murray – New York City Directory
1874: Lediard & Co., warehouse and offices at No. 79 Pearl street.
Lediard & Co., Exporter of Bourbon and Rye Whiskies, Florida Water, Bay Bum, Eau de Cologne, etc., No. 79 Pearl Street.
The importance of the metropolis as the centre of the export trade in liquors and other specialties, can scarcely be over estimated, as the increasing magnitude of the annual transactions at the port of New York abundantly demonstrate. The well-known and reliable establishment of Messrs. Lediard & Co., whose spacious warehouse and offices are eligibly located at No. 79 Pearl street, was established by the present proprietor in 1874, and since its inception at that period, has obtained an extensive foreign patronage, principally in Australia and New Zealand. Lediards’ defuselized Kentucky Bourbon “Short Horn” brand has already commended itself to the trade and to physicians as the safest whiskey for use, being endorsed by Dr. W. C. Tilden, Chemist, United States Treasury Department, as altogether free from impurities, and by Dr. H. C. Bartlett, of London, as perfectly free from fusel oil. Mr. Lediard exports in large quantities, bourbon and rye whiskies, Florida water, bay rum, Eau de Cologne, Zulu water, Sarsaparilla, Bitters, Schnapps etc., and his facilities for procuring goods direct from producers and manufactures are unexcelled by those of any other house in the trade. All orders are promptly filled, and it is the endeavor of Mr. Lediard to merit, by the strictest principles of mercantile integrity, a continuance of the support he has already enjoyed. The bourbon and rye whiskies exported to Australia and New Zealand, have obtained an excellent reputation for quality and fineness at the Antipodes, and are strong competitors with the Scotch and Irish Honors. Mr. Charles Lediard, the sole proprietor of this flourishing firm, is an old resident of New York, and is greatly respected by the community.
1870: Chas Lediard, Liquor Dealer, Age in 1870: 54, Birth Year: abt 1816, Birthplace: England – United States Federal Census
1871: Lediard’s O.K. Plantation Bitters advertisement (see above) – The Galveston Daily News, Wed, September 27, 1871
1876: Charles Lediard, importer, 107 New Church – New York City Directory
1880: Chas Lediard, Exporter, Boarder, Age in 1880: 62, Birth Year: abt 1816, Birthplace: England, Father and Mothers Birthplace: England – United States Federal Census
1885: Lediard’s Morning Call Bitters advertisement (see below) – New York’s Great Industries
1889: Lediard & Company (Charles Lediard), exporters, 79 Pearl, h 744 Union, Brooklyn – New York City Directory
The Carlyn Ring and Bill Ham listings in Bitters Bottles, if appropriate, precedes each bottle:
LEDIARD’S MORNING CALL
L 61.7 LEDIARD’S MORNING CALL Bitters, Circa 1875 – 1885,
L…Lediard’s Morning Call Bitters
LEDIARD’S // MORNING CALL
8 1/4″ x 3 (6)
Round, Olive green, LTCR, Applied mouth, With and without Metallic pontil mark
LEDIARD’S CELEBRATED STOMACH BITTERS
L 60 LEDIARD’S CELEBRATED STOMACH BITTERS, Circa 1870 – 1880
LEDIARD’S // CELEBRATED // STOMACH BITTERS // f //
10 1/8 x 2 7/8 (7 1/2) 7/16
Square, Blue green and Emerald Green, LTC, Applied mouth, Without Metallic pontil mark – Very Scarce; With Metallic pontil mark – Rare
Originated by Charles Lediard, New York, N.Y.
New York City Directory: Charles Lediard originated the tri-cornered Plantation Bitters and Lediard’s Celebrated Stomach Bitters. From 1860 to 1890, Charles Lediard was listed as a liquor merchant and bitters manufacturer with several different partners.
Note: Most specimens of the bottle dug in California. Possibly a bottle made primary for West Coast distribution.
OK PLANTATION
O 13.5 OK PLANTATION, Circa 1863 – 1875
OK / PLANTATION / 1840 // motif 7 vertical ribs // motif 7 vertical ribs // // s // PATENTED ( au ) / OCT. 13TH / 1863 // motif window // motif window //
11 1/4 x 3 (6 3/8) 3/4
Triangular, Amber and Puce, LTC, Applied mouth
OK / PLANTATION / 1840 // motif 7 vertical ribs // motif 7 vertical ribs // // s // PATENTED ( au ) / 1868 // motif window // // motif window //
11 1/4 x 3 (6 3/8) 3/4
Square, Amber, Puce, Apricot, and Olive amber, Applied mouth, LTC
LEDIARD’S OK PLANTATION BITTERS
L 62 LEDIARD’S OK PLANTATION BITTERS, Circa 1865 – 1875
LEDIARD’S // OK PLANTATION // BITTERS – 1840 // sp //
Charles Lediard New York
10 x 2 3/4 x (6 1/2) 3/8
Square, Amber, LTC, Applied mouth, 4 sp, Extremely Rare
C. LEDIARD ST. LOUIS (or) NEW YORK
[Previously sold on eBay] For your viewing pleasure today, I am listing a RARE, ST. LOUIS BITTERS bottle. Embossed C. LEDIARD // ST. LOUIS on one panel. This is a six sided, double ring, applied top, unmarked “bitters” bottle from St. Louis. Charles Lediard was listed in Ham and Ring as a liquor merchant and bitters manufacturer. He produced several marked bitters; Morning Call, OK Plantation, and Celebrated Stomach. Because of the ornate shape and design of this bottle it is considered to be a early, unmarked bitters. All the marked examples of bitters in Ham and Ring date to around 1860, some display iron pontil marks, all are listed as rare or extremely rare. An unmarked “bitters” in the mold of the triangular OK Plantation bottle sold on a American Glass Auction a while back for around $3,000. This bottle has been pro tumbled and has no defects that I can find. It does have, many large bubbles throughout; 2 interior bubbles are open. It also has a small piece of glass that has dripped down and add to the side (near the base) when the lip was applied. Just adds to the crudity of the piece.While we are talking about crudity , the bottle was overblown in the mold and has a huge bulge on one of the lower panels (see picture). Reddish amber in color, to my eye, with a smooth six sided base. The embossing is bold and crisp and I would date it to before 1870. Many of these bottles come from South Dakota as this one did. Don’t sleep on this one, somebody is going to snap it up. These bottles are rare and extremely desirable. I would call this a TOP SHELFER at my house, act quick and it can be one at yours as well.
LEDIARD’S OLD DOMINION MINT JULIP
C. LEDIARD NEW YORK & ST. LOUIS
LEDIARD & CO. NEW YORK & LONDON
LEDIARD & CO NEW YORK & LONDON Applied top. We mentioned the abundance of rare bitters in this auction and none are any more rare than this western fifth shaped Lediards. While there are a few different shaped Lediard bottles, this one in our experience and of the people we have talked to is unique. It’s interesting that it would have “London” embossed on the bottle. Although Charles Lediard himself was quite successful and no doubt became a familiar name around the world. A three-piece mold, there is a ¼” flake off the left collar with a scratch above that. It appears a shovel or some other object came in contact with the top. Not to worry, the bottle displays beautifully in a yellowish green coloration. Fairly heavy, this one has lots of whittle and areas of extreme crudity. This is a bottle you can certainly claim is the only one known, as it’s not even listed in any publication we’ve searched in. Grade: 8.7 because of the top distraction but is otherwise a unique and beautiful example of one of a number of Lediard variants. – American Bottle Auctions #65
ROYAL WINDSOR BITTERS
The Royal Windsor Wine and Stomach Bitters or Royal Windsor Bitters is referenced in early Lediard advertising centered around 1859. I have never seen a bottle. Here is a billhead from Joe Gourd and an advertisement to support the claim. The brand is also mentioned in advertising above.
Ferdinand,
Some additional information about two of Charles Lediard’s products. A wholesale auction firm of MCRUER & MERRILL on Front Street in San Francisco on Wednesday, September 14th, 1859 auctioned off 150 cases of Lediard’s Celebrated Stomach Bitters.
Several advertisements were placed in the year 1860 in the San Francisco Alta California newspaper for Lediard’s Morning Call Bitters, S.C. Shaw was the sole agent for California for this product.
Is anyone aware of a cylinder shaped “Morning Call” in a half gallon size or know the rariety? It’s a wicked light yellow green with millions of bubbles, non pontiled.
Never seen or heard of one. Do you have this? pics? or did you see in a collection?
This link should take you to the picture.
img src=http://www.oldwestbottles.com/morning.jpg
correction:
http://www.oldwestbottles.com/morning.jpg